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What Else You Can Grind Into a Turning Tool: Land, Double Land, Chipbreaker, Ball Nose and End Cutting Edge

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Once the basic angles are ground, five more geometries can be put on a turning tool: a negative land, a double land, a chipbreaker, a ball nose, and three end cutting edge forms. This guide covers which problem each one solves, what values to take, and the one pass people always miss.

Turning tool geometry hero card: title 'Edge Geometry', ribbon 'Basic angles are only the start; geometry answers the problem'; four cards — Weak Edge (a negative land trades sharpness for strength, or use two; cost is cutting force), Chips Not Breaking (groove wide at front, narrow at back, 3-5 degree inclination; stainless needs it), Dull Finish (ball nose R0.3-R0.5, set 0.5mm above centre; low carbon steel), Size Drifts (three end cutting edge forms, the flat wiper finishes best; open it if not rigid)

1. Once the basic angles are done, what else is there

Rake, clearance and entering angle only get you to a pass mark. The five geometries below each answer one specific problem; the basic sequence is in How to Regrind a Turning Tool.

GeometrySolvesCost
Negative landWeak edge, poor heat flow, sudden failureMore deformation and cutting force
Double landA single land is either too wide or too weakSlightly duller edge, not for finishing
ChipbreakerStringy chips on tough materialsWrong groove form packs the chips
Ball noseTorn, dull surface on low carbon steelThe nose must sit above centre
End cutting edge formSurface finish, size control, nose strengthThe wrong form rubs the finished face

After the basic angles: three edge sections a turning tool can still be given - diagram: Negative land: strength bought with sharpness, run it round the nose:A short negative face on the rake side raises edge strength and heat flow; land only the straight section and the tool fails at the nose; Double land: two narrow faces instead of one:The edge approaches an arc, much stronger and better at shedding heat, and the rake can be opened up; slightly duller, so not for finishing; Chipbreaker: wide at the front, narrow at the back, low front, high back:Stainless is tough and work-hardens; the chip curls, runs backward and is squeezed by the narrow high groove until it snaps; Ball nose and the end cutting edge:A torn, dull face on low carbon steel calls for a ball nose set above centre; the end cutting edge comes in pointed, radiused and flat wiper forms, finishing leans on the last two

2. Negative land: strength bought with sharpness

A short negative face is ground on the rake side of a carbide edge to raise edge strength and heat flow and stop sudden failures. The wider the land and the steeper its angle, the stronger the edge — and the higher the cutting force. Chosen well, tool life goes up several times over. How a land differs from a hone is covered in Turning Tool Edge Preparation Guide.

The method, and the pass everyone misses: use a thin F180~F220 silicon carbide stone by hand — clamp the tool, turn the post 90° so the main edge faces you, hold the stone at 10°~15° to the edge, press lightly with one finger and stroke along that angle 3~5 times. The land must run right around the transition edge and the nose radius. Land only the straight section and the tool starts failing at the nose.

3. Double land: two narrow faces instead of one

Grind a single land too wide and the tool turns into a negative rake tool with a dull edge; too narrow and it does nothing. A double land uses two narrower faces, each 0.1~0.2 mm, so the edge approaches an arc: much stronger, much better at shedding heat, and the rake can be opened up. It works on both ductile and brittle materials and can multiply tool life; the edge is slightly duller, so it is not a finishing geometry.

UseFirst face γo1Second face γo2
Roughing (both negative)−5°−15°
Semi-finishing (positive/negative)0°~5°−10°~5°

Method: an F180 or finer silicon carbide stone, or freehand on a fine-grit diamond wheel. The order is fixed: γo1 first, then γo2 and its width.

4. Stainless chipbreaker: let the chip break itself

Stainless is tough and work-hardens quickly, so chip breaking is the hard part of turning it. Beyond cutting conditions, it comes down to groove form: grind a small-radius groove that is wide at the front and narrow at the back (10°~12°), low at the front and high at the back (inclination about 3°~5°). The chip curls, runs backward fast, is squeezed by the narrow high groove and snaps against the major flank.

The main edge and nose radius also need a negative land — with one, life runs over four times that of the same tool without. A short 0° clearance wiper flat where the nose radius meets the end cutting edge, working with a steady rest, gives three-point location so the cut stays stable even if the centre works loose. Matching groove form to material is covered in Turning Chip Control Guide and M-Group Stainless Steel Machining Guide.

A cheap way to lap the groove: after rough grinding, clamp the tool on a horizontal lathe, turn a cast iron lap, coat it with silicon carbide powder mixed to a paste and run the spindle in reverse. It produces an accurate, low-roughness groove for very little money, and works just as well on threading tools and parting blades.

5. Ball nose: when low carbon steel will not come up bright

Low carbon steel that has not been forged or heat treated to improve machinability usually turns grey and dull with visible tearing. A ball nose holds the finished face at Ra3.2~Ra1.6 μm.

Grind a 0.2~0.3 mm chamfer along the whole corner where the major and end flanks meet, then stone the nose into a R0.3~R0.5 mm spherical face. Set it in the holder with the nose 0.5 mm above workpiece centre and cut. Cutting resistance is lower than a tool with a negative land and negative rake, which helps when the machine is not rigid or the part has a large length-to-diameter ratio. Note that the contact width of the sphere must exceed the feed per revolution or the burnishing action breaks down; the radius-to-finish relationship is in Turning Tool Nose Radius Guide.

6. End cutting edge angle and its three forms

The end cutting edge keeps the tool off the finished face and sets the nose angle and its strength. End clearance is usually ground equal to the main clearance: 5°~7° on carbide for roughing, 6°~8° on HSS, and 8°~12° for finishing.

Tool and conditionsSuggested angle
OD tool, rigid setup, continuous cut5°~10°
OD tool, poor rigidity (or rigid but interrupted)10°~15°
OD tool, poor rigidity, interrupted cut20°~35°
Bent-head turning tool30°~45°
Boring and facing tool20°~35°
Parting and grooving blade1°~2°
FormSpec and use
PointedA 60° nose suits plunging in or slender parts; the double-point form suits semi-finishing and finishing, cutting in layers
RadiusedNose radius 0.3~1.5 mm, for high-speed low-feed finishing
FlatA 1.5~3 mm wiper flat, longer than the feed per revolution, reaching Ra0.8~0.2 μm

Wiper inserts work on the same principle — see Wiper Inserts in Turning.

7. Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

Q: I ground a negative land and the nose still chips — why?

Usually because only the straight section was landed. The land has to continue around the transition edge and the nose radius; leave the nose out and it is as good as not landed, and failure starts there.

Q: Can a double land be used for finishing?

Generally no. Two faces leave the edge slightly dull — strong, but not keen. For finishing, reach for a radiused or flat wiper end cutting edge instead.

Q: Why does a ball nose have to sit above centre?

The sphere works by burnishing the finished face, and only a slightly raised nose puts it in the right contact position. The contact width must also exceed the feed per revolution or the burnishing is not continuous.

Q: Is a smaller end cutting edge angle always better?

No. A small angle lowers surface roughness, but on a soft setup or an interrupted cut it has to open to 10°~35°, otherwise the end cutting edge rubs the finished face and the tool vibrates.

This article is part of Tool Regrinding: The Complete Guide — Decide Whether to Grind, Then Look Up How, With What, and How to Check; that guide shows how the whole topic fits together.

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Published: 2026-08-17|Last updated: 2026-08-17

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